Thread: Helper gets bit WARNING some scenes may be disturbing

Originally Posted by Nathan Cram

its good that people are willing to put up there stuff ups on site it shows that people are willing to show the good and bad of there training and it also a good way for the person to get feed back on what they do wrong
to many people are only willing to show there good points

Nath, I am not sure that Alex willingly posted this clip! I would be very surprised if he did.

He has tons of experience, and I am sure he would be a little sheepish about that being on the net.

If anyone knows anything about his opinion of this clip being on the net I would be keen to hear about it.

I have contacted Alex in a bid to create some understanding regarding the video post.
Rather than suppose I became proactive......
I will post when I have something to share

Hi Brad,

Apologies, I obviously misinterpreted your post.

Everybody has a good day and a bad day....The dog was not under control and really that is that...but good luck with it all B.

Hi, Brad!

Thank you for kind words in regards to my work. I'm not much on the internet nowadays, but will be happy to answer your questions.
It's a bummer when people do not have a chance to read my comments in regards to this video in question. Here is what I wrote when I posted the link to it from a website of a club in Moscow where I give seminars:

Собачка 16 месяцев. Третий тренинг по защите ИПО. Облай. Начало получаться, и я, расслабившись, попросил Аню бросить поводок. Естественно, «щеня» вцепился в край рукава, а я решил его «подчистить» стеком. Свой же щенок, чего бояться…СЕРЬЕЗНАЯ ОШИБКА фигуранта с собакой ТАКОГО УРОВНЯ! И вот что получилось( слабонервным не смотреть):

I will translate it for you :

" The dog is 16 months old. Third training in IPO hold and bark. The beginning went well, and I underestimated him, and asked handler to drop the leash. Of course "puppy" did a cheap shot at the sleeve and I decided to "clean him up". It's a pup I bred. What to be afraid of , right?.... SERIOUS MISTAKE from the helper with a dog of this caliber!"

So I was proud of the dog I bred and pointed out that what I did was a mistake. And I paid for it.
This type of "cleaning" works well with majority of today's "working" ( read "sporty") Shepherds. Animals of such breeding have no heart. They can do well in sports and win the world championships , but they are not ready for a confrontation with a human.
My dogs are not like that.
If you interested , you can read more of this topic here :
.
Translate first thread. It's pretty short . If you will need help with translation, I will try to help you when I have time.
Video you mentioned was taked a year ago , when we decided to crosstrain from a suit( video you saw of him at 12-14 months ) to IPO . I know it's usualy other way around , but we russians are stubborn . Next week this dog and his brother goes for IPO -1. Here is video of training this summer of our pups :

http://media.working-malinois.com/vi.../movie_3_1.avi
http://media.working-malinois.com/vi.../movie_3_2.avi

These videos were used as examples for another article I wrote a little while ago about social instinct:
.

As I have no time for internet forums, feel free to post it.

Regards
Alex

Hi, Brad!

Thank you for kind words in regards to my work. I'm not much on the internet nowadays, but will be happy to answer your questions.
It's a bummer when people do not have a chance to read my comments in regards to this video in question. Here is what I wrote when I posted the link to it from a website of a club in Moscow where I give seminars:

Собачка 16 месяцев. Третий тренинг по защите ИПО. Облай. Начало получаться, и я, расслабившись, попросил Аню бросить поводок. Естественно, «щеня» вцепился в край рукава, а я решил его «подчистить» стеком. Свой же щенок, чего бояться…СЕРЬЕЗНАЯ ОШИБКА фигуранта с собакой ТАКОГО УРОВНЯ! И вот что получилось( слабонервным не смотреть):

I will translate it for you :

" The dog is 16 months old. Third training in IPO hold and bark. The beginning went well, and I underestimated him, and asked handler to drop the leash. Of course "puppy" did a cheap shot at the sleeve and I decided to "clean him up". It's a pup I bred. What to be afraid of , right?.... SERIOUS MISTAKE from the helper with a dog of this caliber!"

So I was proud of the dog I bred and pointed out that what I did was a mistake. And I paid for it.
This type of "cleaning" works well with majority of today's "working" ( read "sporty") Shepherds. Animals of such breeding have no heart. They can do well in sports and win the world championships , but they are not ready for a confrontation with a human.
My dogs are not like that.
If you interested , you can read more of this topic here :
.
Translate first thread. It's pretty short . If you will need help with translation, I will try to help you when I have time.
Video you mentioned was taked a year ago , when we decided to crosstrain from a suit( video you saw of him at 12-14 months ) to IPO . I know it's usualy other way around , but we russians are stubborn . Next week this dog and his brother goes for IPO -1. Here is video of training this summer of our pups :

http://media.working-malinois.com/vi.../movie_3_1.avi
http://media.working-malinois.com/vi.../movie_3_2.avi

These videos were used as examples for another article I wrote a little while ago about social instinct:
.

As I have no time for internet forums, feel free to post it.

Regards
Alex