Thread: Hard surface tracking

Hi
Going from vegetation to gradual hard surface is what I do however to me selecting your dog that can do it is very important. It is something that takes time and you can not rush it. What sort of dog are you working?
Artur

Hi to all again

Since I am very interested in real tracking and not the stuff they call tracking in any sport.

Once again without any prejudice i will ask the same question?

Arthur ck9sas can you elaborate on your techniques?
How do you start a dog of and what are the steps of progression since you are the only one that have commented on this topic i am asking you to learn something.

much appreciated

Amie

Hi Amy

If you are looking for somebody to teach you I run one on one lessons. Just let me know when you would like to book in.

Artur

No i have my way of doing things I would like to just compare how others do it, but if this is to much for you to answer or if you have some secrets you don't have to reply.

Cheers
amie

Artur, I've got a 7 month old working line mally bitch I'm training up for wilderness SAR (trailing/tracking). We don't need to track on concrete or asphalt qualify for SAR, but I figure it's interesting to learn about ways of extending our skills in the future. Just another tool in the toolbox.

Have you experimented with the water spray bottle (scent in a bottle) approach at all?

I haven't been on here in awhile and the new format caused me to revisit some old topics and I saw this one. I was fortunate to spend some time this past January with two Dutch friends of mine, one being Sgt. Dick Staal of the KLPD. His training methods are revolutionary in my eyes, especially with his approach to puppies. He has a website I encourage all to view at Dick Staal, the best way to train your dog!. On the site, he has videos of different dogs at different stages of training and ages. He is revolutionary when it comes to train hard surface tracking. To do it, he uses articles (small like rubber washers or metal washers). The dog learns to retrieve articles, then alert on them, then track to them. Check out his site as he has pups around 9 months or even younger tracking straight hard surface tracks with folks pushing strollers, riding bikes, etc. through them. He is an incredible dog man and a very nice guy for those that get the opportunity to train with him. He also has a book out in english that I also think he is trying to take to an e-book format to make it more easily accessible. Really cool guy though!

Originally Posted by scott zimmerman

I haven't been on here in awhile and the new format caused me to revisit some old topics and I saw this one. I was fortunate to spend some time this past January with two Dutch friends of mine, one being Sgt. Dick Staal of the KLPD. His training methods are revolutionary in my eyes, especially with his approach to puppies. He has a website I encourage all to view at Dick Staal, the best way to train your dog!. On the site, he has videos of different dogs at different stages of training and ages. He is revolutionary when it comes to train hard surface tracking. To do it, he uses articles (small like rubber washers or metal washers). The dog learns to retrieve articles, then alert on them, then track to them. Check out his site as he has pups around 9 months or even younger tracking straight hard surface tracks with folks pushing strollers, riding bikes, etc. through them. He is an incredible dog man and a very nice guy for those that get the opportunity to train with him. He also has a book out in english that I also think he is trying to take to an e-book format to make it more easily accessible. Really cool guy though!

Dick Staal is a top class trainer and the book explains his techniques in detail. When you actually sit down and read it, it is very simple stuff. Dogs with high/extreme retreive drives will excel in this type of tracking.

"Have you experimented with the water spray bottle (scent in a bottle) approach at all? "

I trained severall HST dogs in the past myself, using SIAB, in combination with clicker, and it works. If you think about it, it make sense.
Increase the level of smell and decrease the level of smell from the surface.
Try it out, tape it and watch it then, you will see where it goes right or wrong yourself then. You do not need courses for this just comen sense.

Jean