Thread: NEW COLOUR RULES FOR GSD's...

I can't see much point in changing the terminology of the colours.......seems the same dog with the same coat to me???

Have they changed anything else in the breed standard? I heard they were looking at reducing the sloping back/hind quarters which you see on some of the show lines?......I am all for this!!

Cheers

Steve

Thanks for that Black Dog.

I don't see the need for the change but there maybe a good reason.

Ena

Steve your right, those who are familiar with the coat colours will not be confused, but im sure in years to come it will confuse the average person.
There is a political campaign within Dogs NSW at the moment regarding the colouring.

If you read the breed standard about the slopy stuff, the standard says

"[FONT=Times New Roman,Times]The topline flows from the set on of neck over the well defined withers and over the back, sloping very slightly from the horizontal to the slightly sloping croup without a noticeable break. [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times]The back is firm, strong and well muscled. The loin is broad, strongly developed and well muscled. The croup should be long and gently sloping (approximately 23 degrees to the horizontal) into the set on of tail, without disrupting the topline. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times]The Chest: Should be moderately broad, the underchest as long as possible and well developed. The depth of chest should be about 45% to 48% of the height at the withers. [/FONT]
(this was copied from the GSDCA website, but if you go to the ANKC website this is from the standard they have)

The upper line runs, without any visible break, from the set-on of the neck over the well defined withers and over the back very slightly sloping to the horizontal line, onto the gradually slanting rump. The back is firm, strong and well muscled. The loin is broad, strongly developed and well muscled. The rump should be long, sloping slightly (about 23 degrees to the horizontal) and, without any break in the topline, merge with the tail set-on.
Chest: Moderately broad, lower chest as long as possible and well developed. The depth of chest should be 45 to 48% of the height at withers. Ribs should have moderate spring. Ribs which are barrel-shaped or too flat are faulty.

[FONT=Verdana]I dont understand how they can find it in the standard that it says they must look like they constantly are going to take a crap. (please excuse my terminology, and i apologies if i offend anyone, but each to their own i guess)

So in my own vision of this standard it should look something like [/FONT]Attachment 18

(excuse the image quality, this is a pic of one of my own dogs, she isnt stacked all the best but when you read the standard and look at this dog, they seem to fit... Wouldnt you agree?)

Its not the standard they should be changing, its some breeders and the Judges who think these dogs look good. They change the breed standard to fit the current dogs, when it should be the other way around.

Ok off the soap box now, this is a very touchy subject for me, being a vet nurse in a clinic that use to x ray & treat alot of these dogs for various skeletal reasons. Makes you wonder how comfortable they really are in their own body...

Originally Posted by eatz

Thanks for that Black Dog.

I don't see the need for the change but there maybe a good reason.

Ena

Ena, i have seen a website that has very lil info on the new colour ruling and it said something along the lines of the following.
"they have introduced a colour called Solid Grey which we never had before so this has allowed me to follow a colour that has not been seen here before."

I will not say anything further on that particular note.

But Australia is the only one who has put in place the new colour ruling, so we can only assume that someone with some power is trying to leave their political mark on our breed...

This is the Colour description from the ANKC website

Black with reddish-brown, brown, yellow or light grey markings. Solid black or solid grey. Greys with darker shading show a black saddle and mask. Unobtrusive, small white marks on chest as well as very light colour on insides of legs permissible, but not desirable. Nose must be black in all colours. Dogs with lack of mask, light to piercing eye colour, as well as light to whitish markings on the chest and the insides, pale nails and red tip of tail are considered to be lacking in pigmentation. The undercoat shows a light greyish tone. The colour white is not accepted.

How many dogs do u see these days that lack mask colour and dont have the almond shaped dark brown eyes...

Just and update...

I had a 20 minute discussion yesterday with a lady at cccq who very much agreed with me about the stupid new colours.

If you want to register you dog as a black & Tan, Black & Gold, Black & Red, Sable or any of the old colours (which are the true colours) you can do so on the Limited Register, so i guess what they are now trying to tell us is that the true colours of a shepherd are no longer breed worthy...?

If you want to register on the main register then you have to pick one of the new colours that best fits/describes the colour of your dogs i guess, which is somewhat false.

Apparently GSD's arent the only breed to suffer the colour change, GSP instead of being called brown or brown with white, are now refered to as Liver or Liver with White... How can u call them a liver colour...

Bets the hell out of me!...

Oh and apparently the German Shepherd Groups were suppose to notify their members of the change... Im still waiting GSDL?

Hi
Hope this adds a bit of spice, heheheheh
One thing I do know is that the sable German shepherd was originally classified as a Grey. i have a really old book that names them as Greys...
Hope this clarified a little bit.

Regards
george

Yes I don't really see that there was a need for this.

I heard a rumour they want to drop the sable now greys onto limited registration for good....

Originally Posted by floppyearedmali01

Hi
Hope this adds a bit of spice, heheheheh
One thing I do know is that the sable German shepherd was originally classified as a Grey. i have a really old book that names them as Greys...
Hope this clarified a little bit.

Regards
george

George, how old is this book of yours?
I had heard that a long time ago Sables were called greys.

I have an old book as well that was given to me by a lovely lady in TAS. Ive been told that this particular book can fetch a fair price these days
Its what i like to call my Bible...
THE GERMAN SHEPHERD DOG, By Capt. V. Stephanitz

Although i have not come across many dogs with their colour mentioned, but those sable coloured dogs were sometimes called Black with brown...