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Just had a neighbour show me their new pup, a Malinois/Dutch Shepherd X from a petshop in Adelaide's Southern suburbs sold to a 16 year old girl for Christmas?. There were 3 pups 10 weeks old one female pure black apparantly, this one was a male looked more like a Mal?. He is a nice little pup, super prey drive and a hard little nut too, but geez I would like to know who bred this litter and placed them in a petshop?. The girl's dad came down to have a chat knowing I have the 2 GSD's and has seen us training with them asking how to get his pup to walk on leash without biting it and how to stop the pup biting at hands and arms etc as they had never raised a pup before?
He was a great little pup much like my working GSD in drive at that age with some real intensity on the tug having a play with him with good nerve, but hell, this type of dog scares me being sold the way it was to a family that has never raised a pup let alone a working Mal/Dutchy, I was totally shocked a pup like this came out of a petshop for the first person who could outlay the cash, he paid $990 for the pup? Not that I am any expert with heaps to learn, but the pup was confidently barking at people walking down the street already, I am thinking "oh ok I can see where this is heading", regardless of the pup's traits, he's going to be a handfull by the looks of it, and cop this: The petshop told them these pups will be good protection dogs when they mature???
Thats really scary and very sad.The breeder should have there genitals removed.
Julie Kopunovich (11-20-2011), Robert Santori (11-20-2011)
Well it can only be a handful of people, and an irisonsible owner thats for sure, reminds me of something similiar that happend here in Melbourne, At least you have some experiance with your Shepherd you should be able to point them into the correct direction and give them guidance. What about the other pups in the litter? in about 12 months time you will see another litter in a petshop and so on idiots will always get there hands on these dogs.
I was shocked enough to see a Malinois pup knowing they are not overly dog experienced, then to learn he is crossed with a Dutchy and out of a petshop, I was totally lost for words other than saying how cute he looks. He was definitely gorgeous his little ears were up and he was pouncing on leaves blowing in the breeze, but aside from that I couldn't think of anything more irresponsible than selling which appears to me as the makings of a serious working dog through a bloody pet shop?Originally Posted by brad T
I just stressed the importance of training and socialising etc and offered to help at least if things get out of shape I can point them in the right direction, they are good people interested in doing the right thing for their pup. I have heard of this happening before with working pups sold in pet shops, but didn't think I would see one at my front door?
I remember about some in a Melbourne pet shop Jason. Generally it's hard for idiots to get their hands on working GSD's Mal's Rotties etc which safeguards the breeds getting into the wrong hands easily, but coming through petshops is a bit of a scary thought where they will end up?. Although unregistered dogs like this don't have pedigree value, the traits are still there and this little fellow was no slouch, in fact I thought his working potential was super with massive confidence for a 10 week old pup
These are not "dutchie" pups. There has only been two litters of Dutchies in SA. Youngest ones are 20 months old, five out of six of them are in the RAAF and the the other female is with the breeder. The first litter is around 3.5 years of age and they are either with me or are in various government departments.
Dutchies are brindle, not black nor fawn.
So unless someone has bought a "dutchie" from interstate and bred it to a groen then this litter didnt happen.
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jeff jones (11-26-2011)
This pup is fawn with a black muzzle very short coat and looks like a Malinois, can't see any Groen in it Chris? I didn't see the black pup, the people who bought the pup said one of the 3 pups for sale was black, the petshop said they were Belgian X Dutch Shepherd apparantly, but we are talking petshops here who knows?
Isn't there some cross contamination of Dutchies and Malinois in the KNPV breedings, the one's the ANKC don't recognise as pure breds? I am thinking one of the parents was perhaps a KNPV type Malinois/Dutchie what ever they are for "Dutchie" to be mentioned in the breeding?
Anyway, they were unregistered pups with working drive sold via a petshop is the point of the thread.
Last edited by Ann-Marie Abbott; 11-19-2011 at 12:09 AM.
There is a guy in SA who crossed a pedigreed working Mali that went back on some KNPV dogs from Danny with a show Groen and he got a mix of Mali (Fawn) and solid short coat blacks (Black Mali). He was trying to pass them off as KNPV Black Malis, so I can only assume these might go back to him. I dont know the guy and certainly he doesnt have Dutchies. Maybe he was selling them off as "Dutch Malinois".
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Thanks Chris, you are probably on the right track, they may have meant Dutch Malinois, the pups owner said he was the Belgian Shephered that begins with the letter "M", so if the petshop said Dutch Malinois or Malinois /Dutch Shephered X the buyer may have not been any the wiser?. The petshop said they were working dogs and would make great protection dogs, not that I profess to be any expert, but the pups drives for 10 weeks I thought was nice as I mentioned previously, very similar to my working GSD at that age?
and here we go again. What is honestly wrong with people.
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