An interview with a KNPV trainer and breeder.

**Chris Jones** · 05-24-2009, 07:18 PM

I think I preferred it when you were in hiding for the last few years having ripped some people off with your GSD's. How much did you owe people and how long for?
Not only is your grammar terrible but your grasp of reading comprehension is also shocking. This was not an article written by me. It was an interview, not an article. All answers and statements were not written by me, but by Gerben Kamphuis.
Gerben is a guy who has trained and titled dogs to KNPV. You haven’t. Gerben sells dogs to police around the world. You don’t. Gerben lives in Holland and is a member of the KNPV. You don’t and are not. Gerben gets paid to go around the world giving seminars to police and sport people. You don’t. Gerben knows what he is talking about. You don’t.
Starting to see a pattern here? You keep mentioning Appies name, however spelt wrongly, yet who do you think Appie thinks more highly of? You or Gerben? I think it’s not too hard to answer that either. Hell, even Appies new dog is unregistered, and Appie breeds FCI dogs. What does that tell you?
You see you are a nobody, who knows nothing. You imported a GSD female a number of years ago, through the Kollenburgs, got some average litters from her and ripped people off for thousands of dollars. Now you are importing a Mali female. Who is she? What’s her bloodline? All my dogs are on my website. I have nothing to hide. So, tell us who this magic pedigreed Mali is, and I will tell you what her real pedigree is, not the fake one you have on paper. And then when you have got her in the country, I certainly hope you can back your mouth by putting her up for everyone to see. Put her up to be compared to the unregistered dogs that are here. Because if you don’t your just another done nothing talker who wants to make a name for himself by passing off BS as facts.
You see my dogs and Ben and Drew’s dogs have been seen and worked/tested by independent people, with far better reputations and knowledge than yourself. We have had the RAAF test them, infact the same guy who put the suit on for the FCI Duchies’. Do you want to know what they said? Do you want to know how they compared them to the pedigreed ones? Do you want to know what they said about Ben and Drews un pedigreed KNPV Mali’s? Do you want to know how they rated then against the many, many pedigreed Mali’s they have seen and have?
So, as I said, let’s wait and see what your female turn out like. With all this fantastic information, KNPV experience, and the host of well known people overseas who really respect you, you should be able to bring in a female the equal or better than we already have. Let’s see how good she is.
You also keep mentioning the "American Forum", yet you aren’t a member...
I hope you haven’t used a fake name on a forum that requires all members to use their real one. And if you aren’t a member, and so cannot read the forum, what in gods name are you taking about?
So all this chitty chat will just go back and forth, which I don’t have the time for. Let’s just wait until your female gets in the country and we all see if she is the same size as Bens female and if she is just as tough and driven.
So until then, go away and learn more before you say anything else, and don't forget to post your females pedigree.

VIPSS · 05-24-2009, 08:13 PM

Just like I thought Another accusation on a subject you know nothing about.

You are FULL OF IT

As to my Bitch she is here and I bought her From Jenz Her pedigree (at least I have one) Has the best dogs in the world. Through more then one generation.

She is by Zico and out of Hanna
the rest of the pedigree reads like the best of the best in the Malinois dog world

You are the ex-squirt so you should know them.

As to the American Post Just read what they say about your Ex-squirt comments you give Aussies a bad name.

And as to me riping people of I think you once again Know as much as you squirt which is not much.

People owe me money from dogs that they have taken and not payed for.

you can import what you want and push your ex-squirt opinions on others but you should not put down Pedigreed dogs down just because you dont have one, and ceep telling people that yours are better. after all you wright your pedigree out on a pice of paper on your knee using a pencil.

And as to my english and spelling dont make such a big thing of it. after all it is clear that you got my meanning.

And where are your titles and achevements in dog work i mean an ex-squirt like you that has an negative opinion on every topick should have a trophie room. After all you told the Americans that you have the best GSD the best Mals the best Dutchies.

And last I have read your coments with so called experts on the American forum, they rearly gave you a surve and called you few choise words, after you have insulted just about every one there and their dogs. All i can say is dont mention to them that you live in Australia you give us a bad name.

Good luck to you and whatever you do with your dogs.

YOU ARE THE BEST

**Andrew Macleod** · 05-24-2009, 09:01 PM

VIPSS: During our time Ben and my self have had registered Zico dogs. And after lots of research, forums, correspondence with trainers and breeders over seas. We came to the understanding that the unregistered dogs are bigger, stronger and harder dogs. We have spent in excess over $40,000 on imported dogs. Do you think that if they were not different, or if we could get what we wanted with a registered dog we wouldn’t have? This is why we have imported and breed unregistered dogs! They are different from what is here and is what we are after in our Mals. We do not hide our dogs. They are open for anyone to see or work! You can read their pedigrees on our website. We have had the military and other well know dog trainer in Aus have a look at our Mals and are impressed with them. I’m not saying that our dogs are the best, I’m saying that they are different.

Now since I don’t know you and you don’t know me how is it that you can say that unregistered dogs are crap when you have not even seen our dogs? Or is this because you are brining in a registered bitch and just want to pump your own breeding program and put down others? We have one bitch that is 36kg, a super male at 45kg and the other around 50kg. Now tell me what size is your male stud dog? Where is he? Has anyone seen or worked him? You can come to Vic anytime and bring your dogs and compare them with ours! But I doubt that you would!!! Because you seem like the type that will talk tough over a forum and never show up to anything where you could be shown up at!

Now as for bagging out the Gerben Kamphuis interview. Well who do you think you are? What dogs have you titled? And since you are living in Aus and unless you immigrated from over there you will never have had the experience that he has had. I don’t even know him but you are kidding yourself if you think you even have half the experience he has! So I think you need to get off your high horse and get back to the real world!

Thanks Drew

Ben H · 05-24-2009, 09:28 PM

Hello Again VIPSS

I see you are at it again, continually putting down other peoples breeding and choice of dog. The interview with Gerben was for information purposes only and if you weren't so narrow minded and fuelled with your personal vendetta against Chris you would have seen that. Everyone but you stated that the interview was informative, even your collegues.

Now once again here you go making accusations that unregistered dogs are inferior to your FCI pedigree dogs. You ask where Chris gets his facts from, I too would like to know where you get your facts from. It is easy to drop names over the internet. Do you forget that there are other people with world wide contacts also apart from you.

As Drew mentioned you havent seen or tested our dogs, although you are more than welcome to come and test them as already stated we have nothing to hide, but do you? Not once has Firebrand Kennels put down, degraded or abused you or your dogs, but you clearly seem to have no problem doing that to us and the unregistered dogs. This fact as proven by your posts.

I also have friends in Holland and Belgium, but like I said its easy to drop names over the interent but I would really like to know where you get your information stating that only 10% of unregistered dogs make it through the KNPV program. Have a look at www.bloedlijnen.nl and you tell me out of the stud dog list how many unregistered dogs have ph1 titles, hmm alot I am sure.

As already stated you are very quick to put down other breeders, my kennels are open to any inspection or test, can this be said for yours. Also bring your dogs down and lets see if you can put your meney where your mouth is also and see if you can run our unregistered dogs off the field.

Ben

VIPSS · 05-24-2009, 10:01 PM

Drew Mack. As you said You dont know me and I dont know you. I have never baged you out so I dont know why you are taking the ofencive from the start.

I was born in Europe and have trained with Appie Kemps and his son Robert some years ago.

I dont claim to be expert on any subject (leve that to the ex-squirt)

As to my Bitch READ MY POST again if you have to.

I am not bringing any dogs in. I HAVE BOUGHT A BITCH FROM JENZ

HER BLOOD lines are ZICO and HANNA

Zico is the most highly credentialed Malinois male ever to be imported into Australia. He is a very serious dog, with excellent, proven working drives, and possesses an unusually robust and self-confident disposition. He is one of only two Malinois in Australia to have passed the RAAF test for use as a stud dog for producing Military Working Dogs (MWD). The consequent excellent results from several RAAF litters then prompted the Defence Forces to purchase frozen semen from Zico, to enable them to utilise his many impressive strengths as a stud dog for the years to come. The RAAF Breeding Cell have stated they can use Zico over any bitches, because he’s produced excellent progeny with them all.
Bred in the purple, Zico is considered one of the very best sons of the legendary Turcodos v.d. Duvetorre IPO3. During the World Championship for Malinois in Homburg, the Trial Helpers awarded a trophy to the dog they considered the best one at the event. The winner was Turcodos - the sire of Zico! Turcodos is also the sire of the 2007 FMBB World Champion, Qenny Ot Vitosha IPO3.
Zico’s dam, Sanka v.d. Berlex-Hoeve, IPO3, was herself a five-time contender at the World Championships, and to top it off, Sanka is also a daughter of another famous FCI World Champion, Lex!
Blood will tell, and Zico has the very best. His phenotype and genotype is true to his world famous ancestors; Turcodos, Stoned, Elgos, Sanka and Lex (do a Google search for further information on these dogs) - and he consistently produces that Type!
At only three years of age, Zico placed 3rd at the FCI World Championship with the same impressive scores of 291 points as the two highest placed dogs. As rising young star he continued to impress by placing 3rd at the Belgium Malinois Championship, followed by 2nd place at the Belgium Open Championship - once again equalling the winner in points!
One of Germany’s foremost working dog experts, Jurgen Rixen, heaped the highest praise on Zico in his report on the protection work from the FCI World Championship, in an article in Germany’s leading working dog magazine, “Der Gebrauchshund”. Other leading judges, helpers, sport dog fans, and the numerous breeders who have used him in several countries, have also consistently praised this marvellous male for his many outstanding qualities.

HANNA Australian 2008 National H.O.T. Champion SchH3 FH 1

Her sire is the famouse Yagus v.d. Devetorre

And I will breed her to KASPER AIRPORT HANNOVER

Our intensive search to find a Malinois male with a proven genetic capability, able to secure our world class Malinois breeding program, led us to Kasper Airport Hannover. Many thanks to Herr Peter Engel of the famous German Malinois kennel "von Löwenfels" for personally recommending Kasper, describing him as: "a male you only come across every five years!"
Congratulations to Frau Anke Höpken for having bred such an exceptional male, and most importantly, a big thank you to Frau Erika Hinte, Kasper's wonderful owner and handler, for allowing us to access his semen for use in Australia.
Highest awards & trial scores: 100-96-100=296 pts.
2007 DVG Landes-Meister Westfalen
2008 DVG Kreis-Meister
2009 DVG Landes-Meister Westfalen
Excerpts from his DMC Körung (Breed Survey):
"A typical representative of his breed with harmonious proportions.”
"Reacts immediately and convincingly with active aggression and hardness
to threats & intimidation."
"Convincing sharpness. Excellent defensive drives and fighting spirit; highly robust."
"The grip is lightning fast, full and firm, and very effective in every situation".

And it was INVICTUS who claims that his is the best better then any ones cos KNPV are better

I SAY ONE MORE TIME when I was in Holland I have seen a lot of KNPV dogs being chased of the field and aspecialy KNPV DUTCH SHEPHERDS, more so then mals.

SO what gives you the wright to tell other people that KNPV produces only hard dogs

That is BULL and you know it Read your own interview with the dutch expert and you will see what he sais it contridicts your Bull xxxx that you spin here

as to me I have never titled a dog just worked with some of them not only in this country but also in europe but if you or INVICTUS has please let us know of you (and aspecialy INVICTUS) acomplishments I am eager to see them.

**Chris Jones** · 05-24-2009, 10:35 PM