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    Drives in Working Dogs - Over Doing it.

    Seeing the Forum has been quiet for the last few days, I thought I would bring up a subject that should be neutral to breed.

    Drives. Would love to have other people’s thoughts on drives in working dogs.

    I have been searching this forum and other forums on drives and noticed how many people focus on extreme drives in their dogs.

    I hear and read a lot people in the working dog circles talk and possibly over talk drives. I find that there is a lot of focus on high drive and dominance and absolutely little focus on workability. So many times people focus on getting a dog with extremely high drives first and workability second.

    My understanding of drives is they are like a stings on a puppet. Using those drives you should be able to guide our dog to become and do what you want. So why complicate it with too many strings.

    It’s not that I can not handle a extreme high drive dog, but why put up with it. To me the perfect dog has balanced drives, is confident and has bit of a self assured arrogance about him. Ideally you can work him or build drives then put him away and he will be settled.

    Would love to hear from other people with more experience than me and their views.
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    Hi MP,

    This is the quick version i cross posted from the DS thread for what I like drive wise out of a dog.

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    I prefer a dog who will not crumble,i like a high threshold dog to corrections,(very self assured) if given, and a dog with thickness of nerve to remain clear headed and strong in all situations.Mid prey and aggression mid.I think high prey depends on whether the dog has the right nerve for it.So, high for some dogs. Dominance is always good to naturally have inside a dog..
    It is a more challenging dog, but in the long run worth it.

    Most have dogs who we feel are better or worse or lacking,I think it's across most things in life.

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    It’s not that I can not handle a extreme high drive dog, but why put up with it. To me the perfect dog has balanced drives, is confident and has bit of a self assured arrogance about him. Ideally you can work him or build drives then put him away and he will be settled.

    Agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craig View Post
    I believe the focus on drive is a side effect of the amount of dogs with poor nerve structure. Extreme drives in a dog can mask the poor nerves and allow the dog to accept threats etc whilst overloaded in drive unfortunatley these dog may have different reactions out of drive but for people competing in sports this is not an issue.

    Just my opinion

    Craig How long ago have you notice this happening? And if you do have experience from over seas dose it occour there as well and in the same quntities as in Australia.
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    Hi maxpaine

    I think that you have hit the nail on the head when you said why put up with it.

    And you are very correct in saying that for your personal needs.

    I believe in Horses for courses some people can ( and this is not referring to you cos i know your dog) put up and welcome a challenge of a dog that is over the top with drives and balance with aggression and dominance ( you know how i might be referring to. But i believe over all people mostly talk about it because they have never had what i would call a dominant and highly driven dog, a dog that needs constant attention, a dog that if he feels the slightest weakens or sees that you let your guard down he will take you on.

    And the reason why i don't believe that these people know of dogs like that because if they ever had one they would know what a pain it is not being able to relax not being able to enjoy just a relaxing walk. I do know of a few dogs like that and i wouldn't want one.

    What i believe is perfect is a well balance dog good drives (and that will very from personal experience from person to person) good nerves and a balance dominance and aggression.

    the level that i am referring to i believe most people don't even have that, so it is very hard to compare and explain but this is just my little bit to add.

    Ps Please don't BITE the dogs i have referred to in my post i know personally and i am not thinking of any one specific just general.

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