jeff jones (01-09-2011)
[FONT=Times New Roman]Well some of you might know but those of you that don’t know I own a deer farm and the main source of our income is from velvet antler, we harvest off stags which grow it in spring of each year. The velvet antler is removed very humanely by an accredited farmer who uses local anesthetic under the supervision of a vet. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman]Velvet is renewable…..it grows every year on the male deer. It grows at an incredible speed as it is full or natural growth hormones. From nothing on the deers head when it starts to grow its new antlers, to when we harvest the product is about 60 days growth. A very good stag will grow over 11 kg of product which will be over 80cm in length with 3 big tynes out the front of it……this grows in 60 days!!! [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman]Last year we averaged about 7 kg per head. These days I run about 150 stags on my property but previously I have had over 1000 deer. We down sized numbers but increased the quality of the deer so in the end we are a lot better off running less deer that are cutting big sticks of velvet. I.e. it costs the same to run a stag that cuts 2kg of velvet as one that cuts 11kg!! It is all in the genetics and we have spent many years importing semen, doing artificial insemination to get the quality we are after.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman]Velvet is a very unique product that has been used in traditional Asian medicine for thousands of years. In South Korea, velvet is commonly used everyday as a general health tonic and for a range of disorders. Deer velvet and ginseng are the main active ingredients in traditional medicine in this country. Western medicine has done a lot of research in the product and found it very beneficial for a range of conditions from arthritis, muscle repair, increased stamina to repairing bed ulcers in older people and increasing body warm and blood circulation. Many endurance athletes are using it these days as it is a natural growth hormone they can legally use. I have been to seminars were elite athletes swear by the product. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman]It is interesting that studies have been done with benefits in dogs and other pets and the results seem to show an even higher benefit with velvet in canines than in humans. There is now plenty of scientific and anecdotal evidence that suggests velvet is an excellent product for dogs with arthritis and also in working/sports dogs that require increased stamina and muscle repair. Velvet even improves red blood cells and oxygen circulation around the body which in turn increases energy.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman]I regularly use velvet with my dogs and although I have a very good balanced feeding regime for my dogs, I believe it is my secret weapon…..Deer Velvet…..that allows my dogs to thrive, shine, perform and rebound the way they do. I can honestly say when my dogs are on deer velvet; they not only increase in stamina and perform better, but also look a lot healthier with a very soft, shiny coat. The breeding females usually not only hold body condition but increase weight whilst raising healthy fat pups. I put all this down to the use of Deer Velvet.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman]Now I must also tell you about my former dog who was a Rottweiler/Doberman that lived to 17 years of age. This dog lived on velvet like no other, he loved it, always hanging around our handling yards at velvet season, and he ate small and large amounts of it most days. Although this dog had pins in his hips from being run over by a car when he was 2 years old, he showed very little side effects. For many years, nearly up till his death, he regularly ran many kilometers everyday. In his last year of life, he was riddled with arthritis, but when fed deer velvet the difference in his movement and day to day activities was huge. I also believe the warming effect on the body temperature from deer velvet, also had a marked difference on his ability to cope with our cold winters in his last years of life.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman]I feed my dogs fresh ‘green’ deer velvet but it is available in dried powdered form in Australia and from overseas for both human and canine use. In Australia, deer farming friends of mine supply it to the dog market. It is called K9 Magic and I have trialed it for them and believe it is every bit as beneficial as my fresh velvet. If you are interested in trialing this product their website is [/FONT][FONT=Arial]www.k9magic.com.au [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman]let them know[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman]Steve recommended it to you!! I am looking at supplying the product myself into the dog market but have found a few problems with getting people to process it for me……when I do I will let you all know. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman]The product is not cheap but I highly recommend it for the health and increased performance of your dogs. I have put in some links for anyone who wants more information[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman]Regards,[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman]Steve[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman]http://www.velvetenergy.co.nz/background.html[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman]http://www.velvetenergy.com/for-pets.php[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman]http://www.southerncrossvelvet.com/animals.htm[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman]http://www.joint-health-for-dogs.com/support-files/velvetagility.pdf[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman]http://www.purevitality.co.nz/animals.htm[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]SUPERFLEX™ from Adeerco Natural Health for Dog and Cat Health[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman]http://www.velvetproducts.co.nz/dietary-supplements/velpet-antler-velvet/product_info.php/products_id/30[/FONT]
This is some deer velvet that we have produced. We won the Australian National Velvet Competition with this set of velvet antlers. This was grown in under 60 days!!!
jeff jones (01-09-2011)
Thanks for posting that.I am very interested in it and did some research on it when it was mentioned to me by another dog man in the states.I looked at importing some from New Zealand in bulk but it was quite pricey.I cant remember from memory how much but wasnt cheap.The particualr place sent it regulalry to Melbourne in bulk for horse studs.
It doesnt need to be processed does it Steve?I would be interested in buying some from you.You can send me a pm.
Hey mate,
The product does not have to be processed......I feed it to my dogs just like it is in the picture....or cut into bits.
The processing is usually done by drying the antler and then grinding it into a powder type product. This is how you would normally buy it.
Yes Race Horse owners do use it and some swear by it as a great benefit. Some Greyhound people use it regularly as well. As I mention it is an amazing product with many benefits!!
I have just sent all my product to Melbourne to be sold. So I cant get you any fresh product until next season (spring). If you want it in bulk amounts, PM me as I can put you onto the people who I sell through. If you only want a small sample in powder form try the K9 magic link above.
Hope this helps
Steve
Thanks Steve I will contact you via email through your site.
Thanks for the information Steve, I have just ordered some for my dog, I'll let you know how it goes.
Ena
Thank you for this information and for also letting us know about your old Rott / Dob cross, what a long life he had!
I have a question, does the property change (+ / -) when the velvet is dried. As in do you lose any values due to the drying process?
Off to do some research, thank you.
Just bumping this thread - Steve do you have any antlers available now, if so do you post them?
I see that Steve hasn't replied (publicly, at least) to Lisa's post and perhaps he doesn't frequent this forum anymore. But I too am interested in this product - even in the raw state.
I have a couple of questions - don't know if anyone can answer.
My dog has low grade spondylosis, which is why I'm interested in anything that would assist joints and provide enhanced nutrition. But my dog also has (suspected at this stage - not formerly diagnosed yet) IBD/IBS and/or EPI.
Is this product (in its processed or raw state) suitable to feed to a dog with these digestive issues?
Also, are the antlers hard? Because of my boy's digestive issues I've not been able to feed him bones and this is showing on his teeth. He's only 2.5 years old and I'd love to be able to give him something to gnaw on for his teeth but yet would not be detrimental to his stomach.
Hi Judi, The antlers have a high content of calcium which I imagine would be good for your dogs joints. I am not sure whether they would be suitable or cause your pup to have a reaction because of his possible IBD/IBS and/or EPI. You can email Steve via oakparkdeer@bigpond.com who would have a better understanding of the benefits and any possible reactions dogs with similar conditions have had to deer antler.
Last edited by jeff jones; 01-09-2011 at 10:21 AM.
Hi Jeff :wave: and thank you. I will contact Steve.
BTW, recent blood test results reveal it is not EPI. Still not sure what's going on with him though, but that's a whole other story.
Hope you are well, had a great Christmas and that this New Year treats you kindly. It's been a rough start for many who have endured floods and fires. I hope it improves and proves to be a good year for the remainder.
jeff jones (01-21-2011)
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