Thread: Victoria Laws

Another thing, the only dogs that can be attacked trained in Victoria are German Shepherds, Rottweilers, Dobermans and crosses there of. This is in the legislation. Seeing the Malinois now make up a huge part of the working dog pool in Government and private industry, do any of you Mal people out there know why they have not been included as yet in Vic Legislation? Has anyone tried to get them included ?
This should be looked at especially if private security guards and schutzhund people in Vic want their dogs legally trained. It will be good to hear from some Mali people their opinions on this.

Cheers Jen

Originally Posted by Rob

Another thing, the only dogs that can be attacked trained in Victoria are German Shepherds, Rottweilers, Dobermans and crosses there of. This is in the legislation. Seeing the Malinois now make up a huge part of the working dog pool in Government and private industry, do any of you Mal people out there know why they have not been included as yet in Vic Legislation? Has anyone tried to get them included ?
This should be looked at especially if private security guards and schutzhund people in Vic want their dogs legally trained. It will be good to hear from some Mali people their opinions on this.

Cheers Jen

Rob/Jen

I think you need to check Legislation is not mixed up with the Code of Practice. The Code of Practice is not Legislation it is a recommendation by the Government on how things should be done. You will not be charged with not following a Code of Practice but you will be charged with not following legislation under an Act. There are two main Acts that effect security dogs......Domestic (Feral and Nuisance) Animals Act 1994 and the Private Security Act 2004. The Private Security Act does not mention dog breeds other than dangerous banned breeds will not be used. Likewise the Domestic (Feral and Nuisance) Animals Act 1994 does not mention dog breeds when it refers to Attack training. The only mention of dog breeds in Attack training is under the Code of Practice.........Again the Code of Practice is not the Law it is a recomendation..........Rob maybe if you are talking to Animal Welfare again you can confirm this......dont let them pull the wool over your eyes as many of their officers believe a Code of Practice is Law.....it is not. Worth checking out, so we all know what is what.

Cheers

Steve

Hi Steve,
The DPI told us that we have to use the code of practise in with the legislation. It is a package deal. They were very clear on this. Sent copies of them with their own written interpretations of them so there would be no grey areas. If you don't use the two in together you will be charged and do 3 months jail and a 12 grand fine.

Jen

Originally Posted by Rob

Hi Steve,
The DPI told us that we have to use the code of practise in with the legislation. It is a package deal. They were very clear on this. Sent copies of them with their own written interpretations of them so there would be no grey areas. If you don't use the two in together you will be charged and do 3 months jail and a 12 grand fine.

Jen

Hi Jen,

You can not be charged for not following a Code of Practice.........you can be charged for doing bite work in Victoria. The hard part is to legally do bite work you need to do it on a recognized training facility. To get a recognized training facility you need to follow the Code of Practice. Once you have the facility you can not be charged with anything unless it is law under legislation.......various dog breeds doing bite work is not law........the Code of Practice is not law.....To find out what the law is you need to look under legislation/Act and you will find it does not state specific dog breeds.

You will find the fines and/or jail sentences are for items as they are stated under the legislation/Act not under the Code of Practice. It is confusing and a lot of Animal Control Officers dont even know what is what, but the department guys you have talked to should know everything

Cheers

Steve

Confusing is an understatement for sure. What do you do when you have council approval and not DPI approval. Work that one out, because they can't.

Jen

Hi guys

Thought I'd move this thread out of Admin and place it here......

Just the latest update from the DPI. To read the rest of the latest information here is the link http://new.dpi.vic.gov.au/pets/all-a...establishments

Things you should know about dog training establishments

The Domestic (Feral and Nuisance) Animals Act ensures that domestic animal businesses throughout Victoria continue to meet community expectations. The Act does this by establishing a registration scheme for domestic animal businesses such as dog training establishments and adopting enforceable Codes of Practice for their business operations. It is an offence to attack train a dog unless that training is done through a registered dog training establishment, and in accordance with the Code of Practice.

And the types of dogs allowed to be trained are in the update also

Only recognised guarding breeds of the large variety and cross breeds of these, are allowed to be trained in protection training. These breeds are:

• German Shepherd;
• Rottweiler;
• Doberman;
• Other breeds recognised by the VCA as large guarding breeds.

Back again,

Another thing that has come to mind, especially concerning competition events in Victoria is it is easy enough to have the venue, but the problem is that the only dogs that can compete legally are registered working dogs, which in Victoria, unless you are a military or police etc handler, your dog must be registered as a dangerous dog and you must comply with the Dangerous Dog Act. There is also a place for schutzund dogs to compete but their handlers must hold security licences and the dogs also must be registered as dangerous. When an event is held every handler and their dogs details must be recorded. Anyway the problem is that there are not enough legal people and dogs interested, where are all these working dog people in Victoria ? Legislation has left us a little place to compete with our dogs, lets not let that small gap close. Does anyone have the statistics on how many registered working dogs there are in Vic?

Jen